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These schmucks are not giving a lesson on the constitution .... they're telling us they're smart enough to judge the President guilty without benefit of one damn fact.

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Wow! Even Slate. (Now, they make some weak excuses for the "why", but still....)


The Impeachment Drive Climbs Into the Clown Car
Up next, a pointless hearing before the House’s most incompetent committee.

By Jeremy Stahl
Dec 03, 20194:48 PM

On Wednesday, the House Judiciary Committee will hold its first hearing in the latest phase of the impeachment inquiry into Donald Trump. Based on everything we know about the committee’s past oversight efforts, statements by Republican committee members and the president’s defense team, and the details of the panel itself, one thing seems clear: Compared with the staid and productive fact-finding work conducted by the House Intelligence Committee over the past few weeks, this hearing will almost certainly be a disaster.

If this hearing fails to produce further public momentum for impeachment—or ends up being outright counterproductive—it won’t be entirely the fault of the Democrats in charge of the committee. In many ways, the process and dynamics of the Judiciary Committee have been set up to produce a bad result.

First, the Intelligence Committee has already done all the substantive work of gathering the facts of the Ukraine bribery scandal at the center of impeachment and presenting them publicly. What’s left for the Judiciary Committee is to craft articles of impeachment based on the testimony heard in the Intelligence Committee and a report produced by that committee. That’s it. The committee might also throw in articles of impeachment based on the Mueller report, or on existing news reports about President Donald Trump’s violations of the emoluments clauses, but that work would also not produce any substantive new fact-finding—that is, any breaking news.

Instead, Wednesday’s hearing will showcase four constitutional scholars in a setting where they can walk through the standards and protocols for a presidential impeachment. In ordinary times, this might be a useful exercise in civic teaching. But the Trump impeachment has nothing to do with ordinary times.
In ordinary times, this might be a useful exercise in civic teaching. But the Trump impeachment has nothing to do with ordinary times.

The House already tried this approach over the summer, with a trio of educational hearings. The result, for the few people who bothered watching the events, was a series of ludicrous partisan spectacles that only muddied the impeachment question. As Republicans repeatedly pointed out over the course of the three hearings, those panels were useless as a means of moving public opinion—which, with the facts in hand, is supposed to be the principal purpose of this stage of the impeachment inquiry. -- excerpt, rest at link above --

It seems pretty clear that the point of this “hearing” is to pushback on all of the Constitutional arguments that Levin and others have been making.....

After today, it will be a question of which side is more persuasive on this front going forward.....

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Mike Opelka
@stuntbrain
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I never understood people self-mutilated...until I accepted the challenge of watching today's hearings led by "The Nadler." #ImpeachmentHearing Please pray for me.

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Rep. Mark Walker
@RepMarkWalker
Meet Noah Feldman, House Democrats first partisan witness.

Look at the date of this tweet. He has been trying to get @realDonaldTrump
impeached since 46 days into his presidency.

His reason? Trump criticized President Obama.

This is a sham impeachment with sham witnesses.

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Noah Feldman
@NoahRFeldman
· Mar 7, 2017
Trump's wiretap tweets raise risk of impeachment http://bv.ms/2mY1ueX via @BV

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Finally a chance for some truth.... Turley is up....


Turley points out that he is NOT a Trump supporter..... states that as an "irrelevant" fact.....

Suggests that the focus not be on "Trump" but rather on the grave impact that this (misapplied impeachment) can have on the Executive going forward....

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Marek Retweeted
Mark Meadows
@RepMarkMeadows
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How about another? Here's Noah Feldman on impeachment, March 2017. Not even TWO months post inauguration.

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Jill Goldenziel
@JillGoldenziel
· Mar 6, 2017
Yes, a Tweetstorm can be an impeachable offense. http://bv.ms/2mY1ueX via @BV @NoahRFeldman

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