Who shot JR?

WRT the number of deaths, I believe that there are a number of facets, or factors if you prefer, involved in the numbers we are seeing.

I believe that deaths that would have been attributed to other things last year are being attributed to CV-19 this year for several reasons.

1. Hospitals have every incentive to inflate the numbers because uncle sugar is passing out candy for every CV-19 patient treated.
2. Faulty tests producing false positives.
3. Doctors not fully understanding the exact nature of the disease and unintentionally killing people with ventilators and other forms of treatment that exacerbate rather than help the condition of
those under their care.

Why ask why?

WRT the wide disparity of impacts, I believe that at least some partial answers can be found on this thread posted here yesterday.

What specifically does the Wuhan test look for? I've heard it's RNA they think comes from the virus. They amplify it so much using PCR that a positive result is almost inevitable How many tests are false positives? By saying a person without symptoms tests positive, they can be labeled a carrier and forced to quarantine. Where is the proof that these people are shedding virus and a danger to others? There is none but they use this false premise to instill fear and force people to stay home and/or wear masks.

They are padding death counts to instill fear. Who will stop this practice and require the actual cause of death be used? I think the hospitals are being showered with federal money for each wuhan patient.

Why are the state and local tyrants becoming more restrictive now that the virus has peaked, according to the IHME new guessimate yesterday? The narrative is falling apart yet the lockdown orders are extended into mid-May in some cases.

Why isn't the CDC held accountable for their ever-changing and inconsistent "guidance" about the size of gatherings, wearing masks and so forth?

Why are there no lawsuits against the unconstitutional restrictions?

Ok... for my first comment....

I've been saying for a month or more that the release of this virus was an act of war. Not necessarily by China or the CCP.... but by powerful globalist (yeah, I'll use it... oligarchs) that have weird ideas about what the global population "should" be and that have a vested interest in knocking the USA down a few zillion pegs and in the process, get rid of that pesky problem called Trump.

And let's not forget....all of this misinformation and disinformation comes on the heels of three solid years of the exact same BS, lies, propaganda that we've been being fed by the minions of these same globalist aholes.

Expect massive pushback against Trump when he attempts to restart the economy that they broke, and expect them to USE it against him in yet more BS impeachment proceedings. We know how they roll by now, don't we.

Why? So many whys.

Because, because, because.....

Trump.

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Ok... for my first comment....

I've been saying for a month or more that the release of this virus was an act of war. Not necessarily by China or the CCP.... but by powerful globalist (yeah, I'll use it... oligarchs) that have weird ideas about what the global population "should" be and that have a vested interest in knocking the USA down a few zillion pegs and in the process, get rid of that pesky problem called Trump.

And let's not forget....all of this misinformation and disinformation comes on the heels of three solid years of the exact same BS, lies, propaganda that we've been being fed by the minions of these same globalist aholes.

Expect massive pushback against Trump when he attempts to restart the economy that they broke, and expect them to USE it against him in yet more BS impeachment proceedings. We know how they roll by now, don't we.

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I can't argue with any of that.... and I firmly agree with the bolded part above..... it is, what it is..... we all knew that it was coming someday.... just unsure as to the "how," now we know.....

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This is an ongoing thread that all should contribute to.... pose questions and issues..... provide answers or information.....

There are aspects of this whole CCP virus saga that are seemingly hard to resolve.... questions that don't seem to have ready answers.... issues that just don't seem to make apparent sense....

It may be useful/helpful for us to keep track of these in one place..... hence, this thread.....

Starting out with two:

1. The incredibly large spread or span of how the virus impacts and effects various individuals.... of course, genetic makeup can certainly explain some of it.... but it just seems that there is an awfully large range of impacts from:

- people that have had a case of the virus and didn't even know it.... no symptoms or ill effects at all....
- to people that are dying very quickly from it....


2. The status of "testing." There seems to be such a wide range of information being pushed about testing..... on one hand we hear about "millions and millions" of tests will be, or are, available.... anyone can get a test.... we have 10 minute tests..... we have 5 minute tests..... we have antibody tests available.... we are leading the world in testing....

on the other hand, we still see numerous articles about people all over the country not having access to testing.... some of us know heathcare workers out in the field that have no means of getting themselves tested to confirm if they have been infected or not....

we read of faulty testing..... way too many false positives.... way too many false negatives..... contaminated test kits..... what the hell is going on?

yet we read about a cruise shipped moored off the coast of Uruguay that apparently had the entire crew and passenger population tested:


Cruise ship stranded off Uruguay says 60% onboard have Covid-19
Australian cruise vessel reported to have carried 128 people who tested positive

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An Australian cruise company is working to disembark a stricken Antarctic cruise ship on which about 60% of the passengers and crew have been infected with coronavirus.

The Greg Mortimer has been anchored 20km (12 miles) off the coast of Uruguay since 27 March, but authorities in the South American country had until now refused to allow passengers off.

On Tuesday, the ship’s operator, Aurora Expeditions, said that of 132 passengers and 85 crew, 128 people had tested positive for Covid-19. Most on board are understood to be Australian, although there are also citizens of New Zealand, the US and the UK.

“We found a ship where almost everyone has been infected,” said Karina Rando, one of 21 Uruguayan doctors dispatched to the ship. “We’ve done our utmost to prevent our own infection. Most of the passengers are well.”

Many of those who tested positive are still asymptomatic, but could still be at risk, said Rando.

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How is it that they were able to administer tests to the whole ship?

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That ship was for the really high rollers as it was a visit to Antarctica that began March 15. Pretty stupid timing, so I bet they prepared for things by having the test kits already available.

What I am puzzled at is the high amount of infection onboard, but have not found anyone dying from the virus.

It seems to be a very contagious disease that thankfully isn't life-threatening for healthy people. I read a local Facebook page that is about local Corona Virus concerns. One woman that is posting on the page is a nurse who has contracted the disease herself, presumably through work - she is keeping a daily diary of her experience in dealing with the disease - and the challenge of keeping herself isolated in her house away from her husband and children. So far, her symptoms have been pretty much what a healthy person would go through with the flu.

On the other hand, a local man who was working in Detroit temporarily as a brick layer - in his fifties - unknowingly contracted Covid 19 in Detroit, came home and died pretty quickly afterward. We have also had a 91 year old man die from it. I don't know if the younger man had underlying health issues although he was healthy enough to work as a brick layer.

It is complex. I have mixed feelings about it, but I am (for now) trusting that Trump knows things about this Pandemic that we do not. I am pretty sure that it is being used as a bio-weapon to take Trump down. The timing is too convenient. I think that the Globalists, the Chinese, and the DNC are in bed together in this - and I'm sure Trump knows it too. I think he had to take the measures he did to save as many lives as possible - but more importantly - to save his reelection. If he hadn't, every single death would have been proclaimed Trump's fault. If they have their way and he loses in 2020 - turn the lights out - we're done. It's over. Yes, for now I am trusting that he is weighing all options with so many decisions to be made that it would drive a normal man insane. He needs our prayers for sure.

I hope we are getting through the worst of it - and I fervently pray that they don't have another plan in place if this one doesn't work. We are seeing people that have been in power and influence worldwide for a very long time and they are seeing their corrupt and evil power being taken away from them. They won't go away quietly. The media is their mouthpiece and they are very effective at telling sleeping and sheep-like people what to think and what not to think. However, I see a movement rising around the world - "populist" if you will. People are tired of being ruled - they are wanting their sovereignty.

I think the whole mess about masks, ventilators, tests - etc - is being ginned up for purely political reasons. You know... Trump.