I guess that it was inevitable...

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•CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 26 million flu illnesses, 250,000 hospitalizations and 14,000 deaths from flu.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

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Yes, I see that mentioned for time to time.... I had no idea that "regular" flu kills so many each year.... I think that they are mostly elderly and others with comprised immune systems.... but still, it is a lot....

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Feb 8, 2020

•CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 26 million flu illnesses, 250,000 hospitalizations and 14,000 deaths from flu.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

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Yes, but i understand they are basing this on Chinese information. (I can't call it data.)

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Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #139

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Feb 8, 2020

•CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 26 million flu illnesses, 250,000 hospitalizations and 14,000 deaths from flu.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

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Yes, but i understand they are basing this on Chinese information. (I can't call it data.)

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???? @Sanguine

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We don't know the fatality rate except by using Chinese data, which we know to be underreported. The number 14,000 deaths is almost certainly wrong.

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Quote: Right_in_Virginia wrote in post #140

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Feb 8, 2020

•CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 26 million flu illnesses, 250,000 hospitalizations and 14,000 deaths from flu.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

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Yes, but i understand they are basing this on Chinese information. (I can't call it data.)

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???? @Sanguine

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We don't know the fatality rate except by using Chinese data, which we know to be underreported. The number 14,000 deaths is almost certainly wrong.

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Ah, @Sanguine We don't use data from China to determine the number of illness, hospitalizations and deaths for influenza within the United States --- and this is what the stats are for..

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We haven't had 14,000 deaths within the U.S. None, I think.

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We haven't had 14,000 deaths within the U.S. None, I think.

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We haven't had 14,000 deaths within the U.S. None, I think.

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Have you had a cup of coffee yet?

The numbers that RiV posted are for "regular" flu cases, hospitalizations, and deaths in the US for the 2019-20 flu season.....

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We haven't had 14,000 deaths within the U.S. None, I think.

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Have you had a cup of coffee yet?

The numbers that RiV posted are for "regular" flu cases, hospitalizations, and deaths in the US for the 2019-20 flu season.....

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Ah, and no I haven't! This is Coronavirus thread, but having the comparison is nice.

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EXCLUSIVE: Chinese Regime Deploys 1,600 Internet Trolls to Suppress Information on Coronavirus
By Cathy He and Eva Fu
February 18, 2020 Updated: February 18, 2020

The propaganda department in virus-stricken Hubei Province has engaged over 1,600 censors to scrub the internet of “sensitive” information relating to the coronavirus outbreak, according to an internal document obtained by The Epoch Times.

The internal report, dated Feb. 15, detailed the agency’s efforts to ramp up censorship measures. It was drafted after a speech given by Chinese leader Xi Jinping via video link on Feb. 10 to “frontline responders” of the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, the capital of Hubei, where the virus first broke out.

The revelations come as the Chinese regime tightens information controls over the worsening outbreak, as netizens have increasingly turned to the internet to vent their frustrations about the authorities’ response, or document what is happening on the ground.

The illness has seen a steadily growing official list of infections and deaths on a daily basis. Experts and commentators, however, believe the actual number of infections to be far greater, due to underreporting and shortages in testing kits and hospital beds—meaning many people are left undiagnosed.

According to the document, the department has hired more than 1,600 trolls, known as the 50-cent army in China, to regulate internet speech continuously, 24/7.

The trolls, through technological and manual screening, had identified as many as 606,800 posts online with “sensitive or harmful information,” it said.

Th-- excerpt, rest at link above --

I ain’t no virus scientist, or even part of the Human League, but I gotta think that this thing wouldn’t have sprung up in a civilized country, and if one did, it would have been more readily controlled.....